You know, everyone is always looking for that, that magic number in investing.
Speaker 2:Right. The walk away number.
Speaker 1:Exactly. The number where you can finally quit the job, live off the dividends, and literally never check a stock ticker again.
Speaker 2:That is the dream for sure.
Speaker 1:But usually, I mean to get to that number, the conventional wisdom says you have to take on just stomach churning risk. Know, you have to bet on the next big thing and just cross your fingers it doesn't go to zero.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Or so we're told anyway.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:The standard advice is always high risk equals high reward. If you want safety, you basically have to accept peanuts for returns.
Speaker 1:Right. But I was looking at the stack of research for today, and we are doing a deep dive into the state of dividend investing early twenty twenty six today. And there is a backtest buried in here that completely breaks that rule.
Speaker 2:It really does.
Speaker 1:It suggests you might be able to beat the S and P 500 by doing something that sounds almost, well, too simple. Like, why isn't everyone doing this kind of simple?
Speaker 2:You're talking about the barbell concept. And honestly, the numbers we're looking at today, specifically a potential $4,000,000 difference in lifetime returns, they're gonna make a lot of people rethink their safe, middle of the road portfolios.
Speaker 1:We are definitely gonna get to that $4,000,000 number, and the specific two funds that drive it in just a bit. That's our headline event. But first, we have a mission today. We need to navigate minefield.
Speaker 2:A very active minefield.
Speaker 1:Because looking at the market right now, February 2026, yield is everywhere. But a lot of it looks like a trap.
Speaker 2:That is the theme of the day really, sustainability versus illusion. We have covered call funds promising 50% yields that are slowly bleeding to zero, and then you have boring old oil companies quietly printing cash. The whole goal for you listening today is to separate the yield traps, those investments that just pay you your own money back until there's nothing left from the actual wealth builders.
Speaker 1:Let's start with the heavyweights then, the titans. We have a fresh battle of the balance sheets from The Motley Fool today. Chevron versus ExxonMobil.
Speaker 2:The class.
Speaker 1:Right. If I'm an income investor right now, and I want safety, which one is actually winning?
Speaker 2:It's a fascinating split right now. Usually these two trade in lockstep. I mean, they're the Coke and Pepsi of energy. But right now the data is forcing a choice between cash now and cash later.
Speaker 1:Okay. Break that down for us. Who is cash now?
Speaker 2:That would be Chevron, ticker CVX. They are currently the yield king of the pair sitting at roughly 3.9%. And just for context, they've raised that dividend for thirty nine consecutive years.
Speaker 1:Nearly four decades. That is impressive consistency. But I saw the earnings report headlines recently. Didn't they take a pretty significant hit?
Speaker 2:They did. Yeah. Adjusted earnings per share dropped about 27.5% in 2025. Ouch. Right.
Speaker 2:If you just look at the headline, it looks like a company in trouble. You see the double digit drop in earnings, and your instinct is to run.
Speaker 1:Exactly. A 27% drop usually screams cut the dividend. Why isn't the payout in danger?
Speaker 2:Because of why the earnings dropped. They aren't losing customers, they're spending money to grow. Specifically that massive $53,000,000,000 acquisition of Hess back in July.
Speaker 1:Ah right, the Hess deal. That huge news.
Speaker 2:Huge and that deal wasn't just about getting bigger it was a strategic play for reserves in Guyana and the Bakken formation. So while the earnings look really ugly on a spreadsheet today because of integration costs and accounting, management is essentially telling investors, hey take the 3.9% yield while we integrate this massive engine for future cash flow.
Speaker 1:Got it. So Chevron is the pay me while I wait play. Then what is Exxon's pitch?
Speaker 2:ExxonMobil ticker XOM is the fortress. They generated $23,600,000,000 in free cash flow. Wow. Yeah. Compared to Chevron's 16,600,000,000.0.
Speaker 2:So they have more cash right now. But because the stock price has held up better, the yield is lower, only about 2.8%.
Speaker 1:That's a full percentage point difference in the dividend world. That's massive.
Speaker 2:It is. And that's why, despite Exxon having the cleaner balance sheet at this exact moment, the analysis favors Chevron for the income investor. You're getting paid a premium to look past the temporary earnings dip caused by the merger.
Speaker 1:Okay, so Chevron wins the yield battle, but let's look for value elsewhere. We have a report from Bar Chart identifying aristocrats, you know, companies with twenty five plus years of dividend raises that are technically oversold. Now before we list them, explain oversold to me like I'm five. Is this just a fancy Wall Street way of saying the price went down?
Speaker 2:Not exactly. It uses a metric called RSI, the Relative Strength Index. Think of a stock's price like a rubber band. If you pull it too far too fast in one direction, it naturally wants to snap back. An RSI below 30 usually means the rubber band is stretched way too far to the downside.
Speaker 2:The selling has been exhausted and a rebound is mathematically likely.
Speaker 1:Okay, so these are quality companies where the market has potentially just overreacted. Who made the discount list?
Speaker 2:First up is Genuine Parts Company, ticker GPC. You know them as NAPA Auto Parts?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, the blue and yellow sign everywhere. I feel like there's one in literally every town in America.
Speaker 2:There practically is. And they've raised dividends for an incredible seventy consecutive years.
Speaker 1:Seventy years?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Think about that. Through wars, recessions, the .com bubble, the pandemic, everything. But recently, net income dipped just a fraction and the market punished them severely for it. The stock is currently trading with an RSI of 29.
Speaker 1:So that's deep in that rubber band territory.
Speaker 2:It is. The analyst consensus is a moderate buy with a target price that implies a 51% upside. The thesis is super simple. Old cars need parts. The average age of vehicles on the road right now is at an all time high.
Speaker 2:That hasn't changed.
Speaker 1:Makes sense. Who else is on the clearance rack?
Speaker 2:Medtronic ticker MDT. This is medical tech pacemakers, insulin pumps, that sort of thing. This one is interesting because the business isn't actually struggling at all. Sales are up 7%, net income is up 8%.
Speaker 1:Wait. So why is the stock lagging if the business is actively growing?
Speaker 2:It's just sector rotation. Investors have been chasing AI for the last couple of years and ignoring healthcare entirely but Medtronic is trading near that oversold line an RSI of 40 while paying a dividend they've raised for forty eight years. It's a classic disconnect between price and actual value.
Speaker 1:Speaking of AI, the third one on the list actually surprised me. IBM. I feel like people have been calling IBM a dinosaur for twenty years.
Speaker 2:Oh, they definitely have. But Big Blue has quietly reinvented itself. They aren't trying to sell you a laptop anymore. They are a massive player in hybrid cloud and enterprise AI.
Speaker 1:Is that actually showing up in the bank account though? Or is it just, you know, marketing buzz?
Speaker 2:Oh, it's real. Net income surged 92% to $5,600,000,000
Speaker 1:92%, okay that is not dinosaur numbers.
Speaker 2:No, it's really not. And yet, because of its legacy reputation, it trades like a boring utility company. It yields 2.6% and has an RSI of 32. The source argues this is the safest way to play the AI boom. You get the tech exposure but you also get a dividend that's been growing for thirty years.
Speaker 1:I like that. AI with a safety belt. Now let's pivot a bit. We've talked about stocks you buy and hold but what about the income you can live on monthly? We have a deep dive here on Agree Realty, ticker ADC.
Speaker 2:ADC is a favorite for a reason. They're a real estate investment trust, but they do something very specific called ground leases.
Speaker 1:I always get hung up on this concept. If I buy a rental property, I own the building. How is a ground lease different?
Speaker 2:Imagine you own a prime corner lot in a busy town. You don't build the Starbucks. You lease the dirt to Starbucks for ninety nine years. They build the store. They pay the taxes.
Speaker 2:They fix the roof. You just collect a check for allowing their building to sit on your earth.
Speaker 1:And if they go bust
Speaker 2:You keep the building.
Speaker 1:Wow! That sounds like a pretty incredible deal for the landlord.
Speaker 2:It's arguably the safest position in real estate. Agree Realty has two fifty one of these specific ground leases and they have 100% occupancy. Their tenants are 89% investment grade. We're talking Walmart, Tractor Supply, Dollar General.
Speaker 1:And they pay monthly? Monthly.
Speaker 2:And it just raised the dividend by 3.6% in 2025. They're guiding for double digit total returns next year. It's boring, it's predictable, and in this market, that is a premium asset.
Speaker 1:Boring is beautiful, but and this is a big, but boring doesn't always mean safe. We have a real cautionary tale on the stack today. LyondellBasell
Speaker 2:Ticker L Y B. This is a chemical giant. A lot of dividend investors held this as a staple in their portfolio because it had a high yield and a long history.
Speaker 1:Until early twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2:Right. They announced a massive dividend cut. Nearly 50%.
Speaker 1:Imagine you're a retiree. You budgeted your grocery bill and your heating bill based on that income. Suddenly, your paycheck is cut in half overnight. That is the absolute nightmare scenario.
Speaker 2:It is. And it highlights the single greatest risk of picking individual stocks: idiosyncratic risk, one boardroom decision, one bad quarter, and your cash flow is just wrecked. But there is a silver lining here. This story is actually the perfect advertisement for the starter pack ETFs we track.
Speaker 1:Right, because LandellBasell was inside the popular ETFs.
Speaker 2:Exactly. It was a holding in SCHD, the Schwab U. S. Dividend Equity ETF, but it was only 0.52% of the fund. So when the stock tanked and the dividend got slashed, do you know what the SCHD investor felt?
Speaker 1:Probably nothing.
Speaker 2:Absolutely nothing. A blip. The fund absorbed the blow because it holds 100 other companies. The dividend of the fund barely moved.
Speaker 1:So let's look at that starter pack for the listener who wants to avoid that single stock heart attack. We know SCHD is the gold standard for value. What else is winning right now?
Speaker 2:If you want raw yield, you look at VYM Vanguard's high dividend yield. It's heavy on financials and banks. If you want growth, you look at DGRO. But the fund that is really having a moment in 2025 and 2026 is FDVV, the Fidelity High Dividend ETF.
Speaker 1:I saw the asset flows on this one, it nearly doubled in size last year to over $8,000,000,000 Why is everyone rushing into this specific one?
Speaker 2:It fixed the one major problem SCHD has. SCHD is very light on technology because tech companies typically don't pay high dividends. FDVV has a different methodology that allows it to capture high dividends but still hold mega cap tech companies like Apple and Microsoft provided they pay something.
Speaker 1:So when the tech sector rallied, FDVV went right up with it while the traditional dividend funds stayed flat.
Speaker 2:Correct. It returned over 17% in 2025, easily beating its category. It's becoming the go to for people who want dividends but have FOMO fear of missing out on the tech boom.
Speaker 1:Okay, that transition wanting dividends and the tech boom leads us perfectly to the main event, the golden ratio. We watched a breakdown of a fourteen year backtest by Jeff Tieppels that honestly challenges everything I thought I knew about diversification.
Speaker 2:This is the insight that fully validates the barbell strategy.
Speaker 1:Walk us through the setup. What are the two funds?
Speaker 2:It's a fiftyfifty split. 50% SEHD, which is your boring, safe, value, industrial, Coca Cola type companies and 50% VGT Vanguard information technology.
Speaker 1:Now VGT is pure adrenaline. It's Nvidia, it's Apple, it's Adobe, it's highly volatile.
Speaker 2:It is and on the surface putting 50% of your net worth into a single sector ETF sounds completely reckless. But here's the magic, the overlap between SEHD and VGT is almost zero. They only share three common holdings out of hundreds.
Speaker 1:Practically in different universes?
Speaker 2:Exactly. They are uncorrelated, one zigs when the other zags.
Speaker 1:So what happened if I ran this fiftyfifty mix from 2012 through early twenty twenty six compared to just buying the S and P 500 like VOO?
Speaker 2:You crushed the market. Substantially. Starting with $10,000 and adding a thousand a month, the S and P 500 would have grown to roughly $576,000. Impressive. But the fiftyfifty mix, it grew to 723,000.
Speaker 1:That is nearly a $150,000 difference just by tweaking the allocation.
Speaker 2:And the annualized return was about 17% for the mix versus 15% for the S and P 500.
Speaker 1:But why? Usually to get higher returns you have to suffer bigger drawdowns. Did this portfolio crash harder in the bad year?
Speaker 2:That is the big surprise here. It actually held up better. In 2022, remember when tech got slaughtered? VDT was down 30%. It was a complete bloodbath.
Speaker 2:But SCHD barely flinched. It was basically flat. It acted as a shock absorber. But in the boom years, VDT pulled the portfolio way higher than the S and P could go. You captured the upside of tech without the full downside risk because half your money was locked in a fortress.
Speaker 1:I run the math on this to see what it looks like over a lifetime. If you project that 2% performance gap over a thirty year investing career, the difference isn't a 150,000. It's the difference between retiring with $6,900,000 versus 11,000,000.
Speaker 2:That's the $4,000,000 baby win.
Speaker 1:It's wild. We spend so much time trying to pick the perfect stock when just pairing two opposite extremes, boring value and hyper growth creates absolute super portfolio.
Speaker 2:It's the barbell. You have heavy weights on both ends and nothing in the middle. And it turns out the middle is where the mediocrity is.
Speaker 1:Before we wrap up, we have to address the elephant in the room. The high octane income. The covered call ETFs.
Speaker 2:Ah yes, the yield traps. Or at least the potential traps.
Speaker 1:Right. We have a stress test here from the Average Investor Channel that looked at JPMorgan's famous funds, JAPI and JEPQ. These pay $8.09, sometimes 10 percent yields. The criticism has always been NAV erosion.
Speaker 2:Right, net asset value erosion. This is crucial for you to understand. If a fund pays you a $1 dividend but the share price drops by a $1.05 because the strategy is flawed, you are losing money. You are essentially eating your own tail, you're just getting your own principal paid back to you as taxable income.
Speaker 1:So did JPI and JEPQ eat their own tails?
Speaker 2:The stress test says no. Since inception, both funds have maintained their NAV without requiring you to reinvest the dividends.
Speaker 1:That's the key right there. I can take the cash and spend it on groceries and my principal is still safe.
Speaker 2:Yes. In fact, JEPQ, which tracks NASDAQ, actually grew its NAV while paying out huge distributions. Contrast that with a fund like QDTE, which the stress test showed required you to reinvest 57% of your dividends just to stay flat.
Speaker 1:That's a huge distinction. If you have to reinvest the dividend just to keep your balance from dropping, it's not really income, it's just a forced savings plan.
Speaker 2:Exactly. It seems JTPI and JEPQ have found the sweet spot. They cap your upside, you won't get the full rally of the market, but they preserve your capital while generating 8% cash. For a retiree, that is the holy grail.
Speaker 1:But strategies evolve. We saw a headline about YieldMAX ticker YMAX. They're sort of the bad boys of this space doing options on single stocks like Tesla and Coinbase.
Speaker 2:And they are admitting defeat or at least pivoting. They announced they're moving from an equal weight strategy to a momentum based strategy.
Speaker 1:Why this sudden change?
Speaker 2:Because the hold everything approach was causing that exact NAV erosion we talked about. The crypto funds and volatile tech funds were dragging down the winners. They realized that to sustain those funny to 50% yields, they can't be passive. They have to actively cut the losers and ride the winners.
Speaker 1:It's fascinating to watch these funds learn in real time. It's like watching an AI update its own code to stop bleeding cash.
Speaker 2:It's the frontier of income investing. High risk, but high innovation.
Speaker 1:So let's bring this all together. We've covered a massive amount of ground today.
Speaker 2:We really have. It's been a full tour.
Speaker 1:We saw Chevron winning the immediate yield battle over Exxon. We found value in the oversold aristocrats like Napa and the new AI powered IBM.
Speaker 2:We looked at the absolute safety of ground leases with Agree Realty. Owning the dirt, not the headache.
Speaker 1:We learned to avoid single stock disasters like LandellBasell by using ETFs like FDVV.
Speaker 2:And we validated the fiftyfifty barbell strategy, combining boring value and hypergrowth to beat the market by a wide margin.
Speaker 1:And finally, that not all high yield funds are traps. JPI and JEPQ seem to be the real deal for sustainable income.
Speaker 2:It is a comprehensive map for the 2026 investor.
Speaker 1:So what is the one thing you want the listener to take away? If they turn off this deep dive and go look at their portfolio right now, what should they be looking for?
Speaker 2:I want you to look at the middle. We are psychologically wired to seek balance. We buy blended funds. We buy companies that are kind of growing and pay a decent dividend. We try to be safe.
Speaker 1:The safe middle ground.
Speaker 2:But the data from today suggests the middle is actually the danger zone. It's where you get average returns with average risk. The real magic happens at the extremes. Put half your money in the safest, most boring cash flow you can find, put the other half in the most aggressive, world changing technology. Don't try to blend them.
Speaker 2:Barbell them.
Speaker 1:Embrace the extremes. That is a powerful thought to end on. Investing in the edges might just be the sharpest way to cut through all the noise.
Speaker 2:The numbers certainly think so.
Speaker 1:Well, you for trusting us with your time today. Hopefully, we've given you a few tools to build that portfolio a little stronger. We'll see you in the next deep dive.